Titre original: Boys Don't Cry Popularit: 11.214 Both Lana Tisdel and Ton Nissen knew Teenas biological gender, because Teena told them. Men and women react differently to being raped and being punched in the stomach. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). Nor does surgery or chemicals change ones essence. Just because he was born a female does not mean you cant call him by the correct prounons. They had to physically lift her off the ground and sit her on the edge of the bed. BB: Thanks for your most engaging response. I got news for em. Thats all for this post. THREATENED, What conditions have to exist for you to let me inside your house and give me a beer? According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? Evil men have made everyone secondary to mathematical artifice that is a compound interest scam and that aint freedom, thats slavery worse than any fuedal system before the Magna Carta and theyve made it so Lawyers swear an oath not to tell you the truth of of a totally corrupt system, so you in fact pay for their freedom and theft of an entire planet, and poor old Brandon is just another symptom of the intentional pressure theyve put on everyone from a once proud and basically Christian Democracy that if it got its crap in order could drill em a new one (a Christian democracy which incidentally banned compound interest usury on pains of death so of course they are going to try and distort the truth of that scenario) and was murdered in 63 and most likely by those you helped but think they own you. AM LOOKING FOR CLEAN, SAFE, Redirecting to /celebrity/lana_tisdel/pictures Nissen became engaged to a pen pal from Chicago in 2006, according to the Omaha World Herald. Very tired of hearing this low IQ score crap!! Her story outraged . Lotter said that he first met Teena when she walked up to him at the Oasis Bar and they talked and walked out to her car, got inside and shared a fifth of vodka. Teena is a female, so refer to her as she. and its from within the power structure (ie: the 2 boys in Arkansas murdered then put on the train tracks. I VERBALLY/ When Teena Brandon was driven back from the hospital after she was raped, the way she talked showed her mental illness and how her symptoms helped her survive prior abuse. One of the symptoms of mental illness is behavioral inadequacy in social situations. People do not talk about it, because they have something to hide. BTW, I believe that part of the brutality and humiliation of what was done to her was done because she was successfully competing with Lotter and Nissen for dominance, and both liked her as a woman, and emotionally, Teena was really a traumatized girl. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. I have to agree. You seem to know much about the case. That is because Teena needed a company of wolves to run with. Ditto, to a lesser extent to whole-lifers. What about that so called sheriff. Nothing I stated agrees with Lotter and Nissen (are you privy to their mindset, motivation, opinion, and argument as if they had a brain cell between them?) You inferred that I dont think Brandon was a male because thats your stance. While Im mindful that biological sex is fixed and significant (in the face of PC dross denying), I presume BT would wish to be referred to as male, and it seems churlish not to do so. I was there. I think both you guys should be sitting on death row myself. Dont you all find it strange, how the punitive legal franchise inherited from England that bullies and mishandles us all and stands beside the same Cabals Central banking scam is still called the Crown Temple Franchise and how it was forever passed through the ages Intact? "United States Public Records, 19702009," database, FamilySearch (May 23, 2014), Lana M Tisdel, Grant, Nebraska, United States; a third party aggregator of publicly available information. I HAVE BEEN SHOT AT, Maybe he is afraid of going to hell. If Nissen had raped other local girls before Teena and if pulling the pants off and groping was part of Nissens rape ritual, then Laux would have known this from his interviews of the previous rape victims. She also failed to show up for the follow up interview, claiming she was scared and that people were watching the Court building looking for her. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. L.L. The truly informative articles are as follows: Eric Konigsbergs Death Of A Deceiver. This was actually an investigation, where multiple journalists interviewed many people, and Konigsberg is a Lincoln, NE native. Ive seen john lotters interviews and there is no way he doesnt know right from wrong. She was portrayed in the film by Chlo Sevigny, who was nominated for an Academy Award for her performance. Based on things she said, Teena reacted emotionally as a female, not a male to the rape and beating. There are military men who transitioned to female after they enlisted, but that is a smoke from another fire. Menu. I cant decide which. It should be mocked and rejected as deeply dangerous. In Ca 10 years ago, it cost an extra $90,000 per inmate to imprison someone sentenced to death. I have seen it occur before. But a week later, when her father gave her a signed blank check to get a perm, Tisdel took it to a supermarket and filled it out for $250, the amount needed. Undermining that premise makes it hard to take the moral highground. Lisa Lambert's name was changed to Candace in the movie. As you presented it, she was becoming, not was, to be achieved only per operation. That night, adult inmates beat him to a bloody pulp, and tortured him by burning him with cigarettes and lit matches between his toes. She was person unique not an identity or set of characteristics to be appropriated for socio-political discourse, who was appallingly murdered. PERMANENT Lotter and Nissen disposed of the murder weapons, a stolen .380-caliber handgun and a knife with Lotter written on its case, by throwing them into the Nemaha River. Something that might expose them or another person to civil or criminal liability. If you really want to honor someone, you should use their correct name. Have you read any forensics work on the crime scene? To begin with, Teena had a different name for her male self, not the one you see on the internet. There was a lot going on between them and it tied them to other individuals. Distorted synthesizers and drum machines wail away. Homosexuality was not measured in terms of who one sleeps with, but rather in terms of a person associating exclusively with people of their own gender. His story of how they murdered Teena also evolves with his demented ego. I AM UNDER CONSTANT Plus, its possible that Lotter is just bad at taking written tests. A war on drugs but they just never disappear and no one see a flaw in that? The two then kidnapped Teena and took him to a rural area, where they raped and beat him. BEING TARGETED,FOR BEING A TRANS MAN! Trending. John Lotter is an insect, a non-entity, nothing resembling a human being. Teena Brandons psychological symptoms were the result of early childhood exposure to criminality, domestic violence against her mom and her sister, and alcohol abuse first. Everyone wanted her to move and she had no place to go, also, for many reasons, she was not the easiest person to get along with. Lotter described an unusual look in Teenas eyes. Name switch. Not just that, he based his writing on certain assumptions, did not follow through with research and fact checking, missing certain key events revealed in court testimony and police reports. It cant logically be both. R: Fourteen states have no minimum age at which children can be prosecuted as adults, according to the Equal Justice Initiative. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. But they raped her, the one thing men do to assert dominance and humiliation. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. In that Lotter sounds like dedicated Taliban fanatics, who readily accept skinning infidels alive or some other such violence. After moving to Falls City from his hometown of Lincoln, Brandon met a 19-year-old woman named Lana Tisdel and swept her off her feet. Im pro trans-rights. Too bad, Lotter got more help from the well meaning morons trying to get him off the death row than Teena got from highly paid professionals whose job it was to help her. What pissed off the Wannabe Hoboes was that this Outsider had a rolled wad of cash, and when everyone was chipping in, he squinted his eyes, flipped past the $20 Dollar Bills and gave them a five and some single dollar bills. Brandon was born female, but felt male inside. Most women who transitioned to men are gay, middle aged, and have been in stable lesbian relationships within the confines of LGBTQ Community for many years. They deposited him in his crib before they fled. A few days later, on New Year's Eve 1993, Lotter and Nissen came to the Tisdel residence drunk and looking for Brandon, and threatened the Tisdel sisters. Had this been in the military, it would have been seen as great military bearing, instead we have a defiant mug shot. Lana's relationship status is single. That cost him a brutal beating, at least thats what they claimed. THERE IS A CONTRACT OUT ON MY LIFE! Fundamentally it matters not why they killed her; its THAT they did thats appalling, not WHY. At some point, Teena also introduced Tom Nissen to her sister. An imagining of a forlorn and angry karaoke set. You people need to have some respect. Who here believes Lana Tisdel and her mother are the reasons for Brandon's death? As writer John Gregory Dunne described them in The New Yorker: Their sociopathic curricula vitae were so similar as to be almost interchangeable. Another takeaway from this is that just like Lana, Nissen knew that Teena was a girl before everyone else. The ladies obviously had intellectual rather than carnal gratification in mind when they married them. brandon is a he. It took 13 years of biographic research and the PC Brigade strongly objected to some unpalatable facts in it, which went against the popular narrative. The quasi-medical needle is a dishonest compromise to render death more palatable to the public (and is not necessarily quick and painless the practical justification.) Thats the moral heart of the case. Brandon : I hate your life, too. Tisdel sued the creators of the film Boys Don't Cry for using her name and likeness without permission; the suit was settled out of court. I didnt imply that Brandon wasnt a male at all because thats not what I think or wrote. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. Its absolutely in the public/taxpayers/prisons/other prisoners interests to foster as functioning an inmate as possible, which is why much effort is made to enable inmates to communicate with families. Taxpayers in DP states need to ask themselves if there could be a WORSE way of spending their money than this! Teenas real problem was that she witnessed her mother and sister getting hit at around 3 to 5 years of age, and spend the rest of her life running from domestic violence and mysogeny. ON MORE THAN SEVERAL HIT BY THAT There is a noteworthy moment. How else could Tom and John have founded Brandon at Lisa? By same token, any number of women refer to themselves in the masculine in their internal stream of consciousness He being a default for anything not being directly associated with the Female and Feminine. If you are interested in the Matthew Sheppards case there was some interesting controversy surrounding the Steve Jimenez book written about him, The Book Of Matt. Ex-cons John Lotter and Thomas Nissen had targeted Brandon Teena for murder to quiet a rape case against the two ex-cons. S/he was indeed female, and no fiddling with genitalia nor pharmacological therapy could change that. His ex-pal Thomas Nissen is serving his sentence of life without parole plus 24 years at Lincoln Correctional Center. Sevigny is best known for her role as Lana Tisdel in the film Boy's Don't Cry as well as Jean in American Psycho . Nebraska isnt one of the six states that allow conjugal visits. (She hitched up with a guy from her hometown of Falls City on Dec. 6, 2001, according to Douglas County records.). 10 years ago, in Ca, it cost c $4.2 m each to exhaust appeals of DP offenders, over an average 20 years as appeals are multi-layered for capital offenders but less so for lifers. I got three, and two got none of the notoriety because it did not involve any identity issues. Lana is residing in Kansas with her husband and kids. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Who knows? The underachieving trio met while they were couch-surfing and partying in the town of Falls City and other spots in Richardson County. And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. It isnt. However, if you look on the internet, you will see a photo of Teena Brandon grinning maniacally, one hand holding her crotch, another arm wrapped around none other than Lotter, her hand is tightly grabbing Lotters shirt. She has been married to Josh Bachman since 2001, and they are blessed with a daughter and two sons. He was a rich kid. That these women (usually) would themselves likely be victims of the person if free eludes them. Everyone. Sorry if this seems pedantic, but care over words is important on a matter such as this, which is both controversial (biology v social construct / sex v gender) and generates much nonsense. Maury comes knocking. Tisdel (pictured above in her 20s), who had dated Brandon Teena who was born a girl named Teena Brandon but dressed and lived as a man also called out Boys Dont Cry for falsely portraying her as having been present during the shootings that killed Brandon, 22, and witnesses Lisa Lambert, 24, and Phillip Devine, 22, just before New Years Day of 1994. Thanks, Rebecca: What an appalling case! Your email address will not be published. You are absolutely correct. At traffic stops, he tried to skirt the law by giving the pseudonym Charles Brayman to police. Another indicator that Teena needed a company of men is that photo of Teena and Lana doing homework with Nissen sitting on the couch in the background. Nissen later admitted that their original plan was to dismember Brandon, but they didnt have a chance to go through with it, according to court papers. 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