Therefore, I have no ammo in an argument about the efficacy of one product/treatment vs. another product/treatment. to add, my house is on wetlands, mostly in the back yard and the soil around here seems to contain a decent amount of clay. WebAlso Termidor. I am merely a bug guy working for a family pest control businesswith a lot of experience 41 years. They are a great company with great customer service, so get your facts straight. But the Advance system looks better built and requires less frequent checking. Sentricons chemical (Noviflumuron) will not contaminate the soil at all; it wont get rid of termites either. The patio will require digging down at least a foot or two near the foundation, and then up to 3 feet deep within 5 to 10 feet of the foundation for a concrete base for steps and a low wall. Should I clean out any mud that gets in them? There is very little way to know where the termites are tunneling since most of the activity is underground. Termidor, although low in toxicity is still a liquid pesticide. Thanks for your help! Probably the best advice I have read on this forum is to choose a good, quality, pest control company and avoid the cheaper fly by nights. To MaryAnn: I think Altriset looks like it will be a good product. To find out if your home qualifies for a local treatment with Altriset, you should always start by having your home thoroughly inspected. 1) Do a post-construction treatment with Termidor or Altriset or 2)Do a Sentricon install. Howard, A termite treatment , prevention or active is the same treatment ( bait and Liquid ).. A prevention treatment is not a rip-off with the right guarantee.. No move-out is required for localized treatments. However, bait only can not guarantee termite control. The average rate of application in holes drilled is about 1 gallon of termiticide per hole (holes drilled every 12"). Our Florida home which was a new just built home at the time, was treated in 2006 with Termidor. Where other chemical barriers will weaken in a matter of months, Altriset will continue to protect your home from termites. Thanks, the pest control company has already come out and accessed the damage. These companies that sell termite baiting stations are not honest companies at all. I have 41 years experience. WebTermidor HE High-Efficiency Termiticide However challenging the job, Termidor HE termiticide cuts time and labor to make your work easier. Altriset is labeled only for subterranean termites. So, in round numbers, the pest guys cost is about $350 per job. If they were, they would not build exploratory mud tubes. Testimonials , Learning Altriset Termiticide and Termidor SC are both used as an outdoor treatment for termites. With Advance, the materials are sold piece-meal. The pretreatment is Bora-Care. Your input is appreciated, however, you facts are slightly off. Ive yet to hear anything bad about it other than the fact that holes have to be drilled. Im wondering if we should put sentricon outside the house. Im in az. I live in the heart of the south in Mississippi. However, both options deliver solutions on their own timeframe and have a very different impact on your budget, the environment, and your life. When I checked out the NPMA, I found only Orkin and one other company whos name I didnt recognize for SD. I have had a Sentricon system for about 5 years. Ste 301 Dallas, Texas 75238 Termidor and Sentricon are equally effective. If they can the average layman will have no idea if they tell you the type the find is the one that is excluded . Thanks for any help My question is if we are not finding fresh damage or signs of live termites anywhere, are we kidding ourselves to think that perhaps the termites have simply left the area and found a different place to feed or should we assume that since we had them at one time, we will have them again if we dont do something about it now? How can there be such a diparity in the quotes for the same system, Sentricon. They missed a lot at the outset. The Termidor products are produced by the German company BASF SE. The wood in the station rots over time with too much moisture. Educate yourself and get advice, from someone who used to have a termite problem or someone with a renewed in good standing licence, for your own peace of mind. The termites then then die due to lack of activity and inability to eat. I would hesitate to use that company. Company A is recommending spot treatments with termador only to the areas where termites and termite damage was previously found. Joey, If the last check had activity in a station it should not have passed unless the inspection was done by the company doing the baits, or the realtor shopped around til they found someone to pass it. It is amazing they can find a 2 inch thick tomato steak. So why would I be bitter that I was not selected (again, I never applied) to sell an inferior product? I think Sentricon is are only solution. The call backs were to treat roof areas (two story house) Its swarming season again and a few signs have been located. At $1800.00 I would assume your home to be approximately 150 linear feet . I live in Northern California on a hill in a redwood sided home that is adjacent to a forest and wetlands below. I blame Terminix not Termidor which is for the most part a bullet proof product . I live in Cleveland, OH. The constantly foraging termites will run across the bait tube and like it over the house wood, so will start to feed from the tube. If you arent a member, Jim, you should be. after first year. It is an approved, most used, and fully efficient product that professionals use in post and pre-construction. I dont like having to drill holes in the concrete. If termite damage occurs will the vendor repair all damages regardless of cost or is their a maximum?.Can you negotiate escalation cost on the yearly contract etc ? The Sentricon bait tubes are made different now. I don\\\t want to be taken advantage of again. Our company has been in business for over 34 years and licensed in SC, FL, GA , and TN. Roots to Road - Shipping Stressing You Out? If you want a long term, environmentally friendly solution, go Sentricon. The termite Sentricon system relies on the ability of termites to find stakes in below ground bait stations. Thats a savings I like, and I dont have to worry about termites finding some sticks in the ground. The active ingredient is chlorantraniliprole. I was accused early on (if you read the posts) of working for Sentricon. That cost is often reflected in the cost of the treatment-no matter what you choose. You should stay far away from advice from Ron D. This is a good website that provides a good discussion about liquid vs bait termite products. Any advice about warranties on Thermidor? I have one offer to use Altriset for spot treatment of known infestation, paired with Advance bait. In most cases, if youre using the termite Sentricon system, youll be in a contract that states youll receive conventional treatment if Sentricon doesnt work in two years. The annual renewal is usually a litle higher for Sentricon because you are making 4 service trips instead of one, so there is more service involved. Our new house is on a crawl space, so you can readily access the foundation (inside and out). Ive reviewed all the posts to see what the huff and puff was about, and have seen the way you talk to people youre not very nice mister! We have 187 units. Every home is different and it needs to be evaluated individually to determine whether a bait system or liquid treatment is right for your particular property. I have been an expert witness with him in two national termite damage liability cases. 2-is there really any value to a warranty against damage, with how the exclusions are written? How is there any doubt remaining that thats going to be the better deal? There is not evidence that termites are attracted to cellulose. Email:inspector@termiteguys.com.au, 2022 Termite Guys | Website Design by Excite Media, Specialised Pre-Purchase Termite Inspection. Ill tell you how. If you want real protection talk to a family owned company. The world is getting greener all the time and Sentricon is a product that works great and does not involve injecting a hundred gallons of pesticide into the environment. Termidor is a superior treatment, and the annual renwal is usually a lot less. 2. I can tell you from a lot of experience that Termidor control rates are around 99% and Sentricon is around 98%. Once again, its Wood Destroying Organisms Division, not wood destroying insect committee. But we are also invested in giving you the most cost effective treatment available. Once the application gets covered with soil, there is no visible sign of treatment. The termites came back the next spring and it took us the whole summer to get the fly by night pest controller back to retreat. The companys that push it and other baits as a cure for active termites are only looking to guarantee their future REVENUE . Jim. What do you think? Illegal. The only difference between them is the toxicity. Drilling Porches, Patios and Concrete Expansions, Treating Inside Walls, Plumbing Penetrations and Voids, Foaming Inside Walls and Plumbing Penetrations, 2 Step Professional Approach to Killing Termites. I have worked with Chlordane, Aldrin, Dursban TC, and many others, as well as Sentricon and Termidor. It will cost you more in the long run than a full treatment will. Call and email us for a free quote on Barrier treatments or for more information on the Termidor products. If you homeowners want to get rid of termites and protect your home, have a liquid termiticide applied. While Termidor is highly toxic, Altriset is not, making it a better alternative for those who do not want to expose themselves to the risks associated with the use of Termidor . EPA regulation says all termiticides must show initial signs of breaking down in 3 5 years. Do they just abandon that food source during the winter and find another one? I found some evidence of old termite damage and in removing that wood found some live termites on a piece of wood that was contacting the ground. From years of field experience I can honestly say termidor is the best product. I wish you the best! Either use baits that are monitored monthly or go with a liquid. This may surprise you, but this new product does not need to have a signal word because it is the first termite treatment product to be classified by the EPA as Low Risk. Jim- Youre the only one on here selling something Termidor. It goes under the ground. cost is 2600.00. my question is: if I dont need to treat the barns that are 100ft away, why do I need to treat the garage that is 10 ft awaY. A small amount of cement or sand mix mixed in a small bowl with water works perfect for patching holes drilled in cement etc. And do these estimates sound typical for 2012. I want the termites GONE NOW! My company has been around for over 50 years and we offer the bait stations and termidor. Ehrlich says they wouldnt plant anything in the whole garden. I live in northeast PA. Home is 10 years old and no signs of damage. 3. I would greatly appreciate a professional opinion. Use Enter/Space key to visit the menu item. I know what I have seen, and I know what has worked for me. What about when it rains hard for 2 weeks and the gutters overflow? The more I read, the better Altriset sounds. You are down in Tennessee where consumers are not as concerned about pesticides. However, I personally like overkill if it makes it more likely to keep the little bastards out of my house. If you are reading this thread and are just looking for answers to your questions. When the termites reappeard the following spring we then paid to have a REAL CERTIFIED pest control company install Sentricon. I have a few Advance customers, but I would NEVER recommend it over Sentricon. The Orkin man told me that they were the highest in the business. It is higher than any prices mentioned above. Even though these termiticides are non-repellant, they inhibit the feeding for the Sentricon bait. My concern is that it has been 5 weeks and they are not completely gone, although dwindling in number dramatically. Only a tiny percentage of the pest companies (most who have a hard time understanding the technology) dont use the baits. Rich. As mentioned above, Termidor HE can save your tiles. I had Sentricon put in several years ago. Which is more effective, Sentricon or Advance? Advice, please? The first unqualified treatment was done by the sellers. I called orkin. With more than 20 years of research and 16 years of market performance, Termidor termiticide is the most trusted name in termite control. To deliver long-lasting protection, the product leaves residual effect in the soil so that termites dont return. It does last for 10 years in the soil. As for the service intervals of baiting (and more specifically, Sentricon), quarterly works just fine. What do you think? He spent over 10 years researching the habits of termites and knows Sentricon is very effective. Cost is about the same. This is a personal finance site where I write about my personal experiences. Ants swarm sometimes too. Having somebody come by once per quarter and check bait stations will not give you an absolute answer to whether or not termites are in your crawl space. There is a reason why all the larger local companies in every market use Sentricon. My point is that if a homeowner has termites eating their home RIGHT now, they should NOT rely on a baiting system ALONE to entice them to stop. It is not a liquid pesticide. I just looked back wondering where I bad-mouthed any company, and found none. Termidor SC has a proven track record in Australia. You guys who do every other month monitoring is crazy. As for baits Sentricon / Shatter , Advance and Ensysex are all proven baits . And yes, by putting an above ground station where the active tunnel is, you will immediately be getting bait into the colony. The home had been treated previously, I was about 1 yr outside the warranty. Thats the only reason Id want to go Sentricon. While Termidor is highly toxic, Altriset is not, making it a better alternative for those who do not want to expose themselves to the risks associated with the use of Termidor . I would prefer not to use chemicals but I heard Sentricon is an idea that could work but its more of a scheme to help line the pockets Terminix and the University of Florida, etc. Give up on the do it yourself treatments! My house was treated with chlordane in the 80s but flying termites appeared this year which apparantly means there are workers present and trails in place so we have to treat. Have not seen insects or damage there either. The new Always Active Sentricon uses an advanced bait that lasts at least one year, so stations only need to be checked 0nce per year, thus lowering labor costs, This means a better bait and a lower cost to the consumer. high foundation, with a couple of basement windows with lower sills. Since Termidor tends to last 10 years (with no guarantees, I know), Im wondering if I should bother with the longer warranty. I have had Sentricon for 4 years, and have been thinking of going with another company that uses Termidor. Never have I used baits or applied termidor at .06% and I have never had a re treatment in 26-years. I have had to replace trim around my garage door 3 times and now they have eaten a basement window frame. My questions for anyone who might be kind enough to respond: Lisa, whatever you do dont drill your basement floor. Theyre supposed to have always active bait in all the stations now, so they dont have to visit but one time per year. Youll also be happy to learn that this lowtoxic product is virtually odor free! Bifenthrin, although it will kill termites that come in contact with it, will repel termites once it is in the soil. Termite Colony Baiting can be easily performed with our Hex Pro Termite Baiting System. 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