Just asking if anyone has experimented with Alliant 2400 in the 300Blk. 10.0 gr. Posted: 6/2/2013 4:23:33 PM EDT [#3] Hodgdon's 2013 Annual Manual only lists one load with H110 and Sie 220 gr. Just curious of what powder the blackout experts would recommend. Lil'Gun gives less flash and blast than the other two, but in some loads H110 is more consistent. Pasted as rich text. Finally, they are re-stuck to precise specifications to ensure a solid bond and consistency across every round. Stay Tuned to the RE Factor Tactical Blog and be part of this all VETERAN-run website. This cartridge accepts 0.308 bullets, making it a true .30-caliber cartridge for which a wide selection of projectiles ranging from 80 to 250 grains is available. I have 1 pound of lil gun left and if it would cycle the bolt then I would be more than willing to use it rather than wasting h110. A .300 Blackout rifle loaded with subsonic ammunition and fitted with a suppressor is truly silenced; the firearms loudest element is the bolt going home with Some powders, such as the Hodgdon CFE BLK and the H4198 are more compatible with the heaviest of subsonic rounds (220 Gr) than the Trail Boss powder. Required fields are marked *, Stay up to date with all things RE Factor Tactical with updates sent directly to your inbox, Instead of waiting on the companies to provide you with completed ammo for your guns, I highly recommend reloading your own ammo. Depending on the weight and length of the bullet selected, the amount of space available inside the case may change dramatically. In fact, one of the goals of a 300 BLK was compatibility with a suppressor attachment. by JohnInNH Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:44 pm, Post I was waiting for some to get back in stock which is why I tested Lil Gun and it did work. by gorillamotors Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:23 pm, Post However, the 300 BLK is much closer to the 7.62x39mm round in regards to ballistics. I look for 3 specs anytime I choose a suppressor (weight, length, and sound suppression). The 300 BLK was created as a potential solution to varying types of missions conducted by the men inside SOCOM. With heavier bullets you can get more velocity with N120. I know humility seems like its not important, but from my experience, reloading will humble you at some point. Hello all so I have a 8.5in 1-7 twist ar in 300bo and am starting to do some subsonic loads I found a nice price on some berrys 220gr bullets and ordered some. by Maryland_Shooter Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:51 am, Post Bullets for the .300 Blackout are where things can also get interesting. Hodgdon's 2013 Annual Manual only lists one load with H110 and Sie 220 gr. Good info. more more 280 I've loaded for a 16", curious how they compare. If you cannot find one powder in stock, the other may function as a substitute, using the same load data. Whichever bullet, powder, and primer you choose, each company will have load data available on its website. I am starting to load for 300 blackout and had a question about powder recommendations. For clarification, I loaded the Sierra 220gr RN over 10.1 gr of H110.With a 8.5 barrel and a can it is very quiet round. Not Berrys but 8 Seekins barrel suppressed. I will be using Remington brass, CCI 400 primers, H110 for my powder. This cartridge was designed from the ground up to provide adequate performance in both supersonic and subsonic applications, making it highly versatile and adaptable. These seemingly small differences are significant. Make sure always to observe reloading safety rules and not to reload while ill, tired, impaired, or in any state with less than your undivided attention. Besides the cost-saving advantages, handloading is also a way to tune your ammunition to your .300 Blackout rifles so that it performs with the best accuracy and reliability possible. H110 9.0-10.0 gr 208 amax 2.251" oal out of a 10.5" barrel will get you right around 1000- 1050fps depending on your particular rifle and primers used Never had much luck with H110 or 296 due to wide variation in velocity. We are the place to purchase new and used firearms, firearm accessories, ammunition, reloading supplies, suppressors, and much more. 300 BLK load data Trying to connect Share Sign in The version of the browser you are using is no longer supported. Hodgdon Lil'Gun Load Data Only ***5 Best Loads Page 16*****. i will have on hand LIL'GUN, 4227, and one or 2 other powders I have seen used in 300 black. About 985 fps through a 10.5" 1:7" twist barrel. Both loads are with a 225gr. I don't see any setback or pressure signs, indicating the bullet is adequately held, but not too tightly as to create unnecessary pressure. When I started, I was using a food-grade powder funnel that would only fit my rifle cartridges and oftentimes caused issues with stability. All .300 Blackout rifles can shoot either subsonic or supersonic with no additional changes or accessories, the only difference being in the ammunition. Moderators:gds, bakerjw, renegade, bamachem, Post Loading these with cast boolits is like venturing into unchartered territory. If I remember correctly I load 8.0 grains of lil gun for my 220grain subs. Be sure to follow us onFacebook,Instagram, andLinkedInfor exclusive content and deals. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Sierra Matchking 220 GR. Those loads are really light too and leave a lot of the case empty which doesn't help consistency either. They are a lot more economical for plinking than spending the money on the Sierras. Once you reuse your brass, your ammunition costs will decrease even more. Came across some Sierra Matchking bullets and was just wondering what loads some of you guys have for the 300 BLK. Hodgdon H110 is identical to Winchester 296; it is simply sold under a different label. 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H110 doesnt give me lockback on last round, but cycles ok. If you want cheap, youre looking at having to buy remanufactured ammunition, which can sometimes be of questionable quality. https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/rifle-reloading/?cartridge=19. W296 is also viable for reloading .300 Blackout, although it is best suited for supersonic loads only. The subsonic will be quieter through a silencer, while the supersonic will obviously carry more energy for tasks such as hunting. Articles. I have seen loads as low as 10.5,11.0 grains of cfeblk oal of 2.070 and 2.080 to get better accuracy. If youre reloading 300 BLK subsonic bullets that are designed for use with a suppressor, reloading is the most consistent way to achieve optimal results for your specific gun. I have a Quick load spread sheet for. I inherited about 2500 80 gr .224 SMK and really cannot load them up for the AR. I cant overstate the need for the FA Aluminum Powder Funnel Kit enough because its made my life so much easier and has prevented me from wasting time constantly pouring powder back due to spilled grains. Our readers have read enough articles about Frankford Arsenal by now that my level of trust for Frankford Arsenal products. Also, don't seat and crimp in the same die if at all possible with cast bullets, it's really easy to create lead rings or shavings that get stuck in the chamber and screw with accuracy until removed. Optimal performance with supersonic loads is generally achieved with 100- to 130-grain projectiles, while good subsonic loads are achievable with 190- to 240-grain bullets. Heavier subsonics can use Hodgdon CFE Black, Winchester 296 and Accurate 1680. Some use Lil' Gun or R7 but you will more than likely have to go to a carbine buffer. Either way, I think we can all agree both are good. Ok. The 300 BLK has the same overall length and width as the 5.5645mm NATO and can be fired from any M4 or M16 (AR) platform with the same magazines and lower receiver. Enter Accurate 5744. Since were talking about load data in this blog, there are several tools youll need in order to measure the powder, pour the powder into the case, seat the bullet, and install the primer. Thanks! 276-546-1404; Sign In; Logout; Create an account 300 Blackout, 220 Grain, Ballistic Tip, 20 Round Box 61050. I don't have my notes with me, but I think I ran around 8-8.5 gr Lil Gun through my 8.5" SBR running cast coated 240 gr bullets. I worked up to and settled on 15.0 grs If you choose to load subsonic ammo for an AR-15, some bullet ogives can interfere with first rib in the standard AR magazine, causing the ammo to bind and not feed correctly. If youre interested in learning the step-by-step process, read our Hands-On Beginners Guide to Reloading. I'm running 1680 as well 10.8 grains behind pc bullets 215 grains at 2.10, im going from memory here but that's my recollection my next heads will come from leather head. I did some experimentswith Trail Boss and loads were so quiet, it was crazy. Ive got some TB and Hornady 208 AMax Bullets. This I usually get from GI Brass Locker, though there are other sources out there.Primers will be whatever is prescribed in the load data that you obtain. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Our bullets start with a swaged lead core and are then electroplated with copper to their final weight, leaving no lead exposure. It is quiet enough to allow a shooter to fire it without hearing protection. What's new. Our 300 AAC BLK bullets are indoor range safe and unbelievably accurate. HPBT and it's a subsonic My load book is at my shop so i will post the specific data when i go in tomorrow. If so, which do you like better and why? Accurate, dirt cheap, and so quiet you hear the brass hitting the ground and bullet hitting the target. This 220 gr 300 Blackout bullet is ideal for subsonic loads. Webkanlahi festival in tarlac; brazilian three banded armadillo wildscreen arkive. 300 AAC Blackout Seating Depths Existing AR magazines have a rib which normally contacts the 5.56mm case-neck. and 5.56 NATO loads. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Id urge you to do the same. This could be Hodgdon H110, Hodgdon CFE Black, Accurate 1680, Reloder 7 or a variety of others. If you are going to reload 300blk, then you need to invest in Hornaday's 9th edition. The majority of my loads will be Supers until I get some of the new Sub X from Hornady. I was asking because when I used coated bullets in 300blk subs if you seat the rounds too short the barrel will shave off some of the lead and it (at least for me) left a lead ring that prevented firing until it was cleaned out. The relatively fast burn rate makes it suitable for loading various varmint and intermediate rifle cartridges with limited case capacity, such as .22 Hornet, .221 Fireball, .222 Remington, or .300 Blackout. Gotta find time now to shoot them. I also discovered the NOE expander plugs which allow you to both flare the case mouth and set neck tension. I know some may say to check every fifth, or tenth, or whatever number cartridge. As of right now the number one requested topic I get asked about is the availability of ammo when the prices are going to go back to normal". I know many of our readers have many of both platforms and are looking for ways to shoot to proficiency and not go into debt in the process. You might spend $300-$400 today on your tools, but if you shoot regularly, youll make up the cost with 3 or 4 trips to the range. - 220 GRAIN - 300BLK - TMJ : GunBroker is the largest seller of Rifle Ammunition Ammunition All: 981170789 300 Blackout Ammo SUBSONIC WINCHESTER LAKE CITY 220 GR. As far as the other machines, I would stick to what they recommend.One of two tools I find indispensible, not including those for making necessary die and press adjustments is a case gauge. WebBALLISTIC TIP SUPPRESSOR READY 300 AAC BLACKOUT AMMO. I've spent a fair amount of time developing subsonic loads lately and have a couple to share. I had read about some guys using VV N105 & N110 for 300BO. Berrys Superior Plated Rifle Bullets .300 AAC Blackout .308" 150 gr TMJSP 500/ct, Sig Sauer SLH .300 BLK Titanium DT Rifle Suppressor, 300 BLK cartridge has many different powders and caseload options, Intellidropper Electronic Powder Measurer, Frankford Arsenal Intellidropper Powder Measure, step-by-step guide on how to set up the Intellidropper, https://www.amazon.com/shop/refactortactical, How To Buy Guns Online: Armslist Firearms Marketplace, Best EDC Medical Kit Buyers Guide [2023], Best 9mm Competition Pistol: Faxon FX19 Hellfire. There are offerings from Sierra with one of the notables being their 220-grain MatchKing. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The barrel of a 5.5645mm NATO is smaller since the 300 BLK fires a .30 caliber bullet. WebAMMO INC AMO STELTH 300 BLACKOUT 220 GR TMC 20RD BX. WebPowder Bul Weight C.O.L. The subs will not always lock back on an empty mag unsuppressed. Website by Hudson. The standard factory loading for supersonic 300 BLK is a 115 gr round, but there are a ton more options available at the 150 gr mark. I get similar insane ES numbers IMHIO it is on the edge of un acctable.. Long distance, the next best thing to being there! Choosing between the 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK SAAMI specs) and the 7.62x39mm caliber bullets is simply a matter of preference. I dont know many hobbies that you can train more with and spend less money other than reloading your own ammo. Subsonic rounds are particularly suited for use with a suppressed carbine. Or have any good info to share here? Ive seen somewhat large quantities of ammo loaded on a single stage, but it is time-consuming and sometimes involves bribing children to do things like checking it all in a case gauge (be sure to check your states child labor laws). af220wa. i am waiting for some powder to come in this week. : 2.150", 1:7" Twist Rate Barrel Max Velocity: 1300 fps, 1:5" Twist Rate Barrel Max Velocity: 1000 fps, © 2023 Berry's Manufacturing. I would go with 2400 or AA#9 if you look at the load data from accurate.com for 300 blk, Ramshot Enforcer and AA4100 are the exact same powder. 4227 and Lil Gun are quieter butless certain of full bolt lock back. Serving as optimal powders for their intended cartridges. Not that I've noticed but only maybe 100-150 of the 300BO subs fired. Due to the scarcity of boxer primer cases made for a 7.6239 chamber, there are only a few options to reload the 7.62x39mm round. I have lil gun and 1680 powder and am using cci 450 primers with LC 223 to 300bo brass. Berrys 220gr Plated TMJ Spirepoint - relaoding quest, Re: Berrys 220gr Plated TMJ Spirepoint - relaoding quest. H110 is darn good for supersonics. This is particularly helpful when loading subsonic ammunition as you can make sure your bullet speeds are still below supersonic velocities but as close as to those velocities as you can get. Re: Hodgdon Lil'Gun Load Data Only Post by -k- Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:15 pm Maryland_Shooter wrote: Extreme spreads (ES) and standard deviations (SD) are There are also companies converting once fired 5.56 NATO brass (usually with the LC head stamp for Lake City) to .300 Blackout brass. H110 is my second powder choice for blackout. 300 BLK load http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/385765_300_Blackout_Master_Thread.html&page=2. I dont recommend deviating from this for safety reasons. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. AA1680 seems to be one of the better all around 300 BO powders. 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