Reply 02-24-2016, 09:27 AM # 4 gunnermhr Fork Horn This made it a little more difficult to do an apples to apples comparison for both cartridges, but I think those 7 loads are a pretty good representation of the performance of the 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag. You might be wondering, how can load capacity exceed 100%. At the same time, the 28 Nosler Terminal Ascent load is neck and neck with the 300 Win Mag Terminal Ascent in terms of retained energy, but the 300 Win Mag load is going over 200fps slower and has more than 3 feet (37.5) of additional bullet drop at 800 yards. When looking at ballistics for factory ammo, its important to note what barrel length was used. Youve seen everything that sets 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag apart. There are also two semi-automatic options available for the 300 Win Mag in the Browning BAR and the Nemo Omen, which is an AR pattern rifle. Since theyre descended from different cartridges (the 375 H&H belted magnum for the 300 Win Mag and the beltless 404 Jeffrey for the 28 Nosler), the 300 Winchester Magnum uses a belted case while the 28 Nosler has a beltless case. This is not unusual though. The 28 Nosler is a relatively new addition to the shooting community following in the footsteps of its predecessor, the 26 Nosler. Bertram = 100 gr. even when pushed to its absolute limits and that's being done to see the chrono numbers people are showing and being done with powder that most aren't comfortable with ( still a really good powder), and simply put I'm not buying them nearing 3200 or over with a 195 What is your tolerance for recoil? Of the 2, the 300 Winchester Magnum is the most popular and is available in several different versions of the Remington Model 700 and Winchester Model 70. When comparing all four factory loads, both 28 Nosler rounds were slightly faster at all ranges. The 28 Nosler is not quite as common or as popular as the 300 Win Mag, but its by no means rare either. This is especially true with the high velocity/high BC 175gr AccuBond Long Range load for the 28 Nosler. The 300 Win Mag offers shooters an extreme amount of versatility, as there are lighter loads for deer and general target shooting, while heavier loads are available for elk hunting and long range precision shooting. For instance, pressure, bullet weight, initial velocity, altitude, shooting angle, etc. 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag Hunting Cartridge Comparison by Ammo.com. Additionally, I recorded an entire podcast episode on this exact subject. Are you looking for some more feature comparisons? This chart is just to show the difference between the windage. This is where it helps us to prove a point. Topped with a 3-10X 40 mm Nightforce SHV riflescope, a Nosler Model 48 Patriot rifle chambered in .28 Nosler is capable of taking most of the world's big gamewith real long . Now lets take a look at the dimensions of 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag.Specification28 Nosler300 Win MagParent Case.300 Remington Ultra Magnum.375 H&H MagnumBullet Diameter7.21 mm7.8 mmNeck Diameter8.1 mm8.6 mmShoulder Diameter13.4 mm12.4 mmBase Diameter14.0 mm13 mmRim Diameter13.6 mm13.5 mmRim Thickness1.3 mm1.3 mmCase Length65.8 mm67 mmOverall Length84.8 mm85 mmPrimer TypeLarge Rifle MagnumLarge Rifle Magnum. Still, if recoil is your concern, then you should go for the 300 win mag instead of the 28 Nosler or 30 Nosler. Here goes the comparison between 300 Win Mag and 28 Nosler load data. As both the 300 Win Mag and 28 Nosler can shoot longer ranges, one data point for 800 yards was included in the ballistics table. Finally, Nosler produces 28 Nosler ammo in the Nosler Trophy Grade line loaded with a 160gr AccuBond Bullet, the Nosler Trophy Grade Partition line with a 160gr Partition bullet, the Nosler E-Tip line loaded with a 150gr E-Tip bullet, the Nosler Ballistic Tip Line with a 160 grain Ballistic Tip bullet, and the Nosler Trophy Grade Long Range line loaded with a 175gr AccuBond Long Range bullet. In terms of cost, 300 Win Mag ammo will generally be less expensive with basic soft point ammo going for around $2/round and premium hunting ammo costing between $3-5/round. Both 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag bullet drops are almost the same in the initial phase. Both Terminal Ascent loads and the 190gr AccuBond Long Range load for the 300 Win Mag come close, but dip below that threshold between 700 and 800 yards. For the 28 Nosler, bolt-action rifles are your only option circa summer 2022. Mar 29, 2013 1,317 2,066 USA. When it comes to classic hunting rounds, there is none more ubiquitous than the 300 Winchester Magnum. The 28 Nosler will have about 16% more recoil in the same weight rifle. As of late 2022, there are only a handful of 28 Nosler hunting ammo loadings though. Recoil or kickback is the thrust the shooter feels when the bullet is shot. When a cartridge is fired, the powder charge is ignited to push the bullet down the barrel. You can check the velocity, drop rate, energy, and windage here. So, which one to choose: 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag? Designers used those shortened cases so all three cartridges would fit in a standard length rifle action (same as the .30-06 and 270) instead of the longer magnum length action required by the original .375 H&H cartridge. Mag. The features are-. However, 300 Win Mag has less recoil and better barrel life. The results are similar when it comes to retained energy, with the fastest loads having the most muzzle energy. This helps support the blog and allows me to continue to create free content thats useful to hunters like yourself. However, when we compared the 28 Nosler to the 30 Nosler, we saw that the 28 Nosler gave a bit easier recoil. While the 28 Nosler is a newer and more specialized cartridge that does offer certain advantages over the 300 Win Mag in some aspects, few hunters really need the extra capability offered by the cartridge and theres still not a darn thing wrong with the 300 Win Mag either. Virtually every ammo manufacture like Hornady, Winchester, Remington, Barnes, Federal and Browning has some version of 300 Win Mag hunting ammo available. As you can see, the two cartridges both have fairly stout recoil, with the 28 Nosler having a little more than the 300 Win Mag with this particular loading. To reduce the recoil, shooters often use a muzzle brake, also known as a recoil compensator. I do not recommend either of these cartridges for actually hunting the big bears (or other species of dangerous game like cape buffalo), though they will work on the big bears in a pinch. Weight: 7.5lbs. So, we will compare the ballistics against the features of the International Standard Atmosphere (ISA). 300 WM: 210 gr ABLR will hit 1800 fps @ 825 yards with 1514 ft-lbs. Based on a slightly modified 404 Jeffery case necked down to shoot .264 bullets, the 26 Nosler was definitely in the running for the title of the worlds most powerful 6.5mm commercial cartridge.. Here are the trajectory figures, based on a . Some of the links below are affiliate links. Not surprisingly, the flat shooting and hard hitting 28 Nosler is a favorite among hunters after big game like elk who want a cartridge that offers excellent performance at extended range. So what are you even waiting for? That said, this is an area where the 28 Nosler really starts to shine. This holds true for both the 300 Winchester Magnum and the 28 Nosler. Both are great choices for long range shooting, but there are some important differences between them that you should be aware of before making a decision.The 30 Nosler is a newer cartridge that was designed to provide superior performance to the 300 Win Mag. Your confusion regarding these cartridges should be cleared by now. Which is 175 grain for 28 Nosler and 180 grain for 300 Win Mag. Basically, almost every popular centerfire rifle in current production is available in 300 Winchester Magnum. While Id prefer to carry something heavier like a.338 Win Mag(or a 375 H&H) in grizzly country, Id go with the 300 Win Mag over the 28 Nosler since it uses larger diameter and heavier bullets. 30 Nosler: Nosler = 99 gr. The 300 Win Mag uses the same 308 bullet size as the .308 Winchester, .30-30 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, 300 WSM, .300 Ultra Mag, and .300 PRC. The 28 Nosler is the clear winner for a hunter looking for a really good cartridge for use on bigger game, especially at extended range. the 300 RUM took an elk at 400+ in 30 mph gusty wind with 2 hits 3" apart and it was only animal that required 2 shots this year. The 27 Nosler case has 42% more case capacity than the 270 Winchester, 25% more than the 270 WSM and 12.5% more than the 270 Weatherby. #FederalPremium #ammunition #nosler @NoslerInc pic.twitter.com/NTUJJoNxVm. To ease your pain, weve discussed here everything regarding 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag. Again: Im not necessarily advocating long range hunting here. You can see the similarities and differences between the 28 Nosler and 300 Winchester Magnum in the photos below. You can hunt any game within 200-350 yards distance without flinching an eye. This will adjust for the wind speed. Just got some Peterson 300 WM "Long" brass to try. If youd like to learn more about some of the various hunting rifle choices for the 300 Winchester Magnum cartridge, read this article: Do you primarily hunt medium sized game like whitetail deer, feral hogs, or black bear at ranges within 200 yards? 30 Nosler Vs 300 Win Mag . The popularity of the 300 Win Mag and ammo availability cannot be understated, as there is no worse feeling then going out to the range and not having ammo available to shoot with. 28 Nosler SEE IT Specs: Bullet Weight: 175 grs. That bullet has a G1 BC of .648, which outclasses the .30 caliber 190 grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range & .30 caliber 200 grain Hornady ELD-X (both have a G1 BC of .597) as well as the .30 caliber 200 grain Federal Terminal Ascent (G1 BC of .608). Interestingly, that particular 28 Nosler Terminal Ascent loading is the flattest shooting 28 Nosler factory load currently available. For a sub-MOA barrel, many shooters report a loss in peak accuracy for 28 Nosler around the 800-round mark, while a 300 Win Mag barrel can maintain superb accuracy between 1,000 and 1,500 rounds depending on your load. The 33 Nosler is capable of propelling a 225gr AccuBond at 3025 fps and the brand new 265gr AccuBond Long Range at 2775 fps. Additionally, the 300 Winchester Magnum has a 25 degree shoulder angle while the 28 Nosler has a steeper 35 degree shoulder angle. But in every other aspect, 28 Nosler is the easy winner. No matter which cartridge you choose, make sure you stock up on ammunition here at Ammo.com and Ill see you on the range! Nosler Ballistic Tip always looks good. However, 300 Win Mag has less recoil and better barrel life. In this article, we will evaluate the 300 Win Mag vs 28 Nosler to help you understand the differences between the two and give you a clearer idea of which cartridge is best for your shooting needs. If were being honest with ourselves here, the 300 Win Mag is by far the more popular elk hunting cartridge and has taken way more elk than the 28 Nosler over the years, primarily due to the fact that its been around so much longer. Because the wind will change the trajectory in an angular perspective. However, if you are a competitive shooter who needs to squeeze every fps out of a cartridge or enjoy having the best ballistics possible for your hunting rifle, then the 28 Nosler deserves a look. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). The 300 WM typically fires bullets between 150 and 220 grains while the 28 Nosler fires bullet weights between 160 and 185 grains. Barrel Length: 24. I'v got the 28 Nosler and 300 RUM. If your budge it a little more flexible, the Weatherby Vanguard, Ruger Precision Rifle, and Sako S20 are all amazing options available for over $1,000. Additionally, dont forget about the importance of impact velocity. The 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag are two extremely powerful centerfire rifle cartridges that are more similar than they are different. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. If any of these three features are what youre looking for, 300 Win Mag is your fit. While both cartridges have slightly different rim diameters (.532 for the 300 Win Mag vs .534 for the 28 Nosler), they both use a larger diameter cartridge case and require a larger magnum bolt face. Among all these factors 300 Win Mag beats 28 Nosler in barrel life, recoil and price. On the other hand, the 28 Nosler recoil rate is almost 30 ft-lbs, which is 16% greater than that of 300 Win Mag. Sectional density is a measure of the ratio of the diameter of a projectile to its mass. However, a person with the right shooting skills who wanted to extend their effective range by a another couple hundred yards would be well served by the 28 Nosler. For a big game hunting rifle, you cannot go wrong with either the 300 WM or 28 Nosler. All other things being equal, the 300 Win Mag will probably have better barrel life than the 28 Nosler. What is the difference between 300 Win Mag and 28 Nosler? At 800 yards, the difference becomes extremely apparent as the 175 gr Accubond LR bullet of the 28 Nosler had the flattest trajectory with only -127.7 of bullet drop, followed by the 160 grain Ballistic Tip with -132.8 of bullet drop. Hunting & Fishing 28 Nosler vs 300WM for elk. Although all four rounds were essentially identical out to 300 yards, the 28 Nosler started to shine once it hit 400 yards and beyond. So where do we stand with each cartridge? On the other hand, you have 28 Nosler! The average weight for Savage 110 is 8.5 pounds. For 28 Nosler, the 160 gr Ballistic Tip and 175 grain Accubond Long Range loads from Nosler were selected while the Barnes Vor-TX 165 gr TTSX and Hornady Precision Hunter 200 gr ELD-X were selected for 300 Win Mag. Furthermore, the gigantic case capacity of the 28 Nosler allows the cartridge to fling those very heavy, high BC bullets at a very fast muzzle velocity, which translates into a flatter trajectory, less wind deflection, and more energy retained at longer range. The 28 Nosler has more recoil, a flatter trajectory, more resistance to wind drift, and carries significantly more retained kinetic energy downrange than the 300 Win Mag. This makes finding inexpensive plinking bullets as well as premium hunting bullets a relatively simple task. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. The effective range or maximum range of a bullet depends on the shooter. The 175 gr Accubond LR bullet for the 28 Nosler had the highest kinetic energy at 3,794 ft-lbs of force at the muzzle while the 165 gr TTSX for the 300 WM had the lowest at 3,566 ft-lbs. Many more details are yet to come! The 300 Winchester Magnum will generally have a longer barrel life than the 28 Nosler. Before we get started, I have an administrative note for you. Nosler initially made a name for itself in the hunting community by developing revolutionary hunting bullets like the Nosler Partition, Nosler AccuBond, Nosler Expansion Tip (E-Tip), and Nosler Ballistic Tip. But both of them have an almost close drop rate. This means, 300-500 yards is the safest hitting distance for both 28 Nosler and 300 Win Mag. I decided to go with a 300 win mag 28" 1:8 Bartlein barrel throated long and using CIP length mag. Same weight bullet, same velocity = same recoil. The 160 grain bullet for the 28 Nosler had the highest muzzle velocity at 3,200 fps while the 200 gr Hornady ELD-X for 300 Win Mag was the slowest at 2,850 fps. However, I think the 28 Nosler really offers a massive improvement over the 300 Win Mag in that area though. Its only normal that people wouldnt abandon 28 Nosler just because of the recoil. I spend much of the fall hunting elk and success this year has been excellent. Brass everywhere, especially from lapua. Lets say, you want to hit the target from a distance of 300 yards with 28 Nosler. The rifle weighs the same for both cartridges so the only other real difference I can see is ammo availability, though for the price of 28 Nosler it would definitely be worth reloading (though components can be hard to get too right now). Now, there are tons of differences between these cartridges. 1st choice would be the 300 RUM. Though we will not debate the ethics of long range hunting here, our advice is that you spend ample time at the range practicing at the distances you expect to shoot. Interestingly, all 3 28 Nosler loads have a very similar trajectory with about 1 difference in bullet drop at 500 yards between them. Furthermore, its important to note that the actual case diameter of the 28 Nosler (.55) is larger than the non-belted portion of the 300 Win Mag case (.513). We can calculate the load capacity of any cartridges with the formula-, Load capacity = Charge/(case capacity x bulk density). Well, it is not weird at all. The situation is a little different with the Terminal Ascent loads though. On the other hand, for 300 Win Mag, youll need 81 gr powder charge of H1000 powder. Firing a 165gr CX bullet at a blazing fast 3,260fps, that particular loading is the flattest shooting 300 Win Mag factory loading I could find and I included it in order to compare the flattest shooting loads for each cartridge. However, Winchester left the belt on the cartridge case in a bit of creative marketing to harken back to its parent case. At the same time, while the 28 Nosler tops out with 175 grain bullets, the .300 Win Mag is capable of firing 200 grain, 208 grain, and 220 grain bullets with sectional densities of .301, .313, and .331 respectively. As an example, 150 grain and 175 grain .284 bulletshave sectional densities of .266 and .310 respectively. Not even with the suppressor cover on. As one of the top big game hunting cartridges in North America, the 300 Win Mag is one of those rounds that all others are compared to as it reliably takes down elk, mule deer, whitetail, and antelope every hunting season. 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